Comments on: iWantFlash talks with Scobleizer, as well as thoughts on HTML5 and Apple http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/ Hey Apple, I want the web as it was meant to be seen! Sat, 22 May 2010 07:53:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Bruce http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-289 Bruce Sat, 22 May 2010 07:53:54 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-289 Reading Robert's "Can Flash be saved?" really struck me yesterday and not exactly positively. In regard to HTML5 being able to replace Flash Platform for even the easy stuff like a comprehensive video or audio player, this is not the case. Videos on YouTube and Vimeo that currently offer HTML5 video playback (which is absolutely great) deploy H.264 codec licenced by Apple, Google and Vimeo, but not Mozilla who is principally against using it. Given that we're discussing around 25% of users who's browser provider has an idea of Ogg's open source codec instead. And that in respect to Open Standards is most reasonable. Plus, with IE's ongoing dominance we've got some max 10% users capable of HTML5 on WebKit-based browsers. That pretty much puts an end to the hype. All in all, Flash blackout on Apple's devices have nothing to do with technology. Think of it reasonably, if Safari was loaded with casual game bookmarks, it would play itself out severely on App Store sales. 75% of casual games on the web are estimated to be based on Flash. + take a look at the poll: Do you prefer HTML5 or Flash on YouTube/Vimeo? http://twtpoll.com/rsuakk Reading Robert’s “Can Flash be saved?” really struck me yesterday and not exactly positively. In regard to HTML5 being able to replace Flash Platform for even the easy stuff like a comprehensive video or audio player, this is not the case. Videos on YouTube and Vimeo that currently offer HTML5 video playback (which is absolutely great) deploy H.264 codec licenced by Apple, Google and Vimeo, but not Mozilla who is principally against using it. Given that we’re discussing around 25% of users who’s browser provider has an idea of Ogg’s open source codec instead. And that in respect to Open Standards is most reasonable. Plus, with IE’s ongoing dominance we’ve got some max 10% users capable of HTML5 on WebKit-based browsers. That pretty much puts an end to the hype.

All in all, Flash blackout on Apple’s devices have nothing to do with technology. Think of it reasonably, if Safari was loaded with casual game bookmarks, it would play itself out severely on App Store sales. 75% of casual games on the web are estimated to be based on Flash.

+ take a look at the poll: Do you prefer HTML5 or Flash on YouTube/Vimeo? http://twtpoll.com/rsuakk

]]> By: Jonathan M. http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Jonathan M. Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:47:51 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-92 This was really a great conversation regarding Flash and how Apple views the technology. At the end of the day those of us that use Flash just want everyone to be able to experience our work. When a company decides to lock out it's users from experiencing a certain type of technology it tends to raise flags. I also like where Google and Android are headed. I think Google selecting XDA as their development team was a great choice and they're making great progress with the Android platform. I feel theirs a future with Flash may not be on an iPhone or iPad but theirs a future for it. This was really a great conversation regarding Flash and how Apple views the technology. At the end of the day those of us that use Flash just want everyone to be able to experience our work. When a company decides to lock out it’s users from experiencing a certain type of technology it tends to raise flags. I also like where Google and Android are headed. I think Google selecting XDA as their development team was a great choice and they’re making great progress with the Android platform. I feel theirs a future with Flash may not be on an iPhone or iPad but theirs a future for it.

]]> By: iwantflash http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-83 iwantflash Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:15:07 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-83 Most people are not complaining about the hardware or the rest of it. Most people that are visiting this site might be interested in buying the iPad, but they want Flash supported so they can see the whole internet. Many people including myself may buy the iPad even though it doesn't have Flash. I just would prefer that it did. Most people are not complaining about the hardware or the rest of it. Most people that are visiting this site might be interested in buying the iPad, but they want Flash supported so they can see the whole internet. Many people including myself may buy the iPad even though it doesn’t have Flash. I just would prefer that it did.

]]> By: Crenshaw http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Crenshaw Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:34:39 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-81 I am unconditionally looking to purchase the Apple iPad, and I am enjoyed to see what kinds of games and apps will be programmed for it. I just don't understand some of the nitpicky criticisms in this website. Size of the bezel?? OMG! I am unconditionally looking to purchase the Apple iPad, and I am enjoyed to see what kinds of games and apps will be programmed for it. I just don’t understand some of the nitpicky criticisms in this website. Size of the bezel?? OMG!

]]> By: iwantflash http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-80 iwantflash Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:57:04 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-80 Here is a link to the audio file http://www.cinchcast.com/scobleizer/20299.mp3 sorry cinch doesn't put it in its embed code. Here is a link to the audio file http://www.cinchcast.com/scobleizer/20299.mp3 sorry cinch doesn’t put it in its embed code.

]]> By: David http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-79 David Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:48:05 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-79 What conversation am I supposed to be listening to? Is there a link to an audio file somewhere? What conversation am I supposed to be listening to? Is there a link to an audio file somewhere?

]]> By: iwantflash http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-70 iwantflash Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:22:08 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-70 Adobe built CS3 and CS4 in Carbon, which were released in April 2007 and October 2008 respectively. It is doing a major push to bring the CS5 suite to Cocoa. However keep in mind anytime you are forced to re-write in a new API to maintain current functionality you can not add any cool new features that make it worth upgrading. Adobe has always truly adopted the Mac platform, it just has limited resources to change applications that so many people build there career's on. If you can add feature x, y and z which will result in sales or do a whole bunch of work that the user will really never see or notice guess where the resources go? Flash on the iPhone is a completely different argument, Flash is a content and application delivery system. Flash is used to display a large amount of content on the web. I personally would like to see that content on my iPhone. Adobe built CS3 and CS4 in Carbon, which were released in April 2007 and October 2008 respectively. It is doing a major push to bring the CS5 suite to Cocoa. However keep in mind anytime you are forced to re-write in a new API to maintain current functionality you can not add any cool new features that make it worth upgrading. Adobe has always truly adopted the Mac platform, it just has limited resources to change applications that so many people build there career’s on. If you can add feature x, y and z which will result in sales or do a whole bunch of work that the user will really never see or notice guess where the resources go?

Flash on the iPhone is a completely different argument, Flash is a content and application delivery system. Flash is used to display a large amount of content on the web. I personally would like to see that content on my iPhone.

]]> By: uberVU - social comments http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-67 uberVU - social comments Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:09:07 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-67 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by lkilpatrick: New Blog post : http://bit.ly/94eUTb - About my talk with @scobleizer and thoughts on Flash, Apple and HTML5... Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by lkilpatrick: New Blog post : http://bit.ly/94eUTb – About my talk with @scobleizer and thoughts on Flash, Apple and HTML5…

]]> By: Joe Stevens http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Joe Stevens Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:19:49 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-64 "Jobs neglects to mention that Apple had planned on releasing a 64-bit version of Carbon, only to cancel it and only provide 64-bit API’s in Cocoa" Why is Adobe still doing its apps in Carbon? Apple has been phasing Carbon for a while now. Adobe didn't see the writing on the wall with that and continued to do its apps with Carbon when clearly the best thing to do was a full rewrite in Cocoa. This is what irritates Mac users about Adobe a failure to truly adopt the Mac platform in the way that we like. That may be an arrogant attitude but the failure to do so is part of the reason why Apple is not putting Flash on the iPhone. “Jobs neglects to mention that Apple had planned on releasing a 64-bit version of Carbon, only to cancel it and only provide 64-bit API’s in Cocoa”

Why is Adobe still doing its apps in Carbon? Apple has been phasing Carbon for a while now. Adobe didn’t see the writing on the wall with that and continued to do its apps with Carbon when clearly the best thing to do was a full rewrite in Cocoa. This is what irritates Mac users about Adobe a failure to truly adopt the Mac platform in the way that we like. That may be an arrogant attitude but the failure to do so is part of the reason why Apple is not putting Flash on the iPhone.

]]> By: Joeflash http://iwantflash.com/2010/01/31/iwantflash-talks-with-scobleizer-as-well-as-thoughts-on-html5-and-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Joeflash Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:06:26 +0000 http://iwantflash.com/?p=28#comment-61 When the Google Nexus One is released, the iPhone with its closed, locked down experience, is going to be looking very unappealing for so many users. When companies like Lenovo and Asus start releasing their tablet netbooks, which will of course be Flash 10.1-compatible, the iPad with its lack of features and its locked-down architecture is going to look like a pathetic toy in comparison. So no, it doesn't need saving. http://www.joeflash.ca/blog/2010/01/does-flash-need-saving-nahh.html When the Google Nexus One is released, the iPhone with its closed, locked down experience, is going to be looking very unappealing for so many users.

When companies like Lenovo and Asus start releasing their tablet netbooks, which will of course be Flash 10.1-compatible, the iPad with its lack of features and its locked-down architecture is going to look like a pathetic toy in comparison.

So no, it doesn’t need saving.

http://www.joeflash.ca/blog/2010/01/does-flash-need-saving-nahh.html

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