When you sign a petition you are saying you support what the petition is about. Some signers obviously don’t, so I don’t understand why they would put their signature on it.
Some of the comments are as follows:
So much for your on line petition. All positive comments eh?
That’s because you choose to remove any comments you deem anti flash. Put my previous comment back up. Show some guts.
Btw sent from my iPhone – one of 30 million sold worldwide. So far you have 336 signatures. Doesn’t compute does it lol
Have you seen how Flash 10.1 is different than what you have used before? Check out somethings from the open screen project at http://www.openscreenproject.com not everything built with flash sucks. I have been on teams that have developed business applications with it as well as games that give an experience different than anything else on the web. Please check out http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/mobile_demos_fp10.1.html to see everything flash is already running on.
Others have written:
There will never be Flash on the iPad or iPhone.
Thank goodness.
Flash would destroy the app store ecosystem, which would ultimately be bad for developers (can’t make money selling apps), bad for consumers (if developers can’t make money, they stop making great apps), and bad for the platform (apps become junk made by 14 year olds and spammers, constantly crashing your device).
Apple made the right call, for the right reasons. I’m a Flash designer/developer, and I don’t regret for one second Apple’s decision.
I have worked as a Flash designer and developer and I made lots of money doing so. There is a very large community of professional flash and flex developers that make excellent livings building amazing applications. With Air Adobe has created a platform that lets you role your own web apps then charge for them. You must have missed http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/services/ the Apple App store is not the only game in town to make money from. Since flash is a more mature platform than the iPhone it doesn’t take much to know that developers have made more money building flash applications and products over the past years than all the developers that have been building iPhone apps. With Flash you can achieve the build once, run anywhere dream that developers have had since the second computer operating system was built.
Why do you not even want the option to turn it off? Do you like companies telling you what you can and can’t run on the hardware you own? I personally think I should be in control of what goes on my hardware rather than the manufacture. If you drive a car and want to ad a different set of tires to it, do you have to ask permission from Toyota or GM? Why should you not be able to make your own choices?
I remove the negative signatures as they do not support the petition and are basically just spam. I will allow through some of the negative comments on the postings that make well reasoned arguments. Saying “HTML 5, Javascript and CSS 3 rule and Flash is dead LOL” is not going to be posted because it adds nothing to the discussion.
HTML5 is years away in standardization and support. Microsoft Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8 and most likely 9 will not support it, and unfortunately this is what over 60% of the web and almost all of the corporations use. As developers we all hate Internet Explorer but Flash is the only way around it to build the rich experiences the web has to offer. Why would you want to have to develop your project in HTML5 for Safari and Chrome which have combined less than 10% of the market and then in Flash to support all of the rest of the browsers? I’m a developer, and I hate doing double work to support IE and the others in their different interpretations of CSS2 why would I expect CSS3, HTML5 and each browsers implementation of Javascript to be the same? HTML5 just sounds like a ton more work in the future rather than what can be done with flash today.
I hope HTML5 succeeds, I really do, and guess who will make the tools to build for it? Adobe. Adobe is a tools company, the flash player is just a means to an end, the more flash content is out there that can be used to day the more tools they will sell to build it. Do you not think that if HTML5 becomes available in a big way Adobe wouldn’t support it in its tooling? HTML5 and Flash are not the same, if you think this you really do not know all of what flash can do.
The site has been live for less than 24 hours and only has been promoted by about 30 tweets, 300+ signatures in a few hours is nothing to be upset about. I am sure over the next few days their will be more.
I like my iPhone and I may get a iPad, but I have moved to palms webOS platform so that I can develop for the phone I use the most. Palms hardware is much more user controlable than any of apples mobile hardware at the moment and by the end of February it will be running flash. If Adobe can get flash running well without hurtting the battery life on the Pre which is almost the same hardware as the iPhone 3GS then the road block is Apple. All of these companies have joined the openscreen project to bring flash to their devices, only one big player is missing. http://www.openscreenproject.org/partners/current_partners.html If Google, RIM, and Palm are all going to have flash on their products soon why shouldn’t Apple give us the choice?
If you don’t believe in what the petiton is for, don’t sign it. I care about intent more than numbers.
I AM NOT AN ADOBE EMPLOYEE AND THESE THOUGHTS ARE MY OWN.
Luke Kilpatrick
iWantFlash.com